Ep. 99 The Solution-Oriented Mindset: Strategies to Overcome Anxiety & Life’s Challenges

In Part 13 of the Soul Sisters series, with my real-life sister, Brenda Rachel, we explore the power of a solution-oriented mindset in overcoming anxiety, grief, and the challenges of disability. Through personal experiences, insights, and practical strategies we discuss how to regain balance quickly—no matter what life throws your way.

From the lasting effects of the pandemic to today’s global uncertainties, we introduce the concept of “soul-ution”—a deeper approach to identifying and addressing the root causes of anxiety and highlight the transformative benefits of a spiritual practice in overcoming challenges.Whether facing personal struggles or collective stress, we also share actionable tips to navigate anxiety and life’s obstacles with greater clarity and ease.

Join us, for this honest, heart-centered conversation filled with wisdom, resilience, and actionable steps to find and maintain inner peace.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to Soul Sisters.
• 0:30 Discovering the Soul Sisters Series.
• 3:51 Introduction to episode.
• 8:47 Staying Solution-Oriented & S O U L- ution.
• 15:37 Angels, Afterlife, Homesickness.
• 21:39 Mediums, Suicide and Afterlife.
• 37:32 The Soul and Healing.
• 50:13 Anxiety and Getting Back to Center.
• 1:02:11 Finding Solutions for Personal Challenges.
• 1:24:21 Our Stories, Anxiety and Vices.
• 1:27:18 Solutions to suffering.
• 1:29:41 Closing.
• 1:30:01 End.

Transcript

Brenda Rachel  0:08  
Welcome to the Soul Sisters series, where you'll get thought-driven inspiring topics for your soul! With Vonne Solis and Brenda Rachel.

Vonne Solis  0:30  
Okay. So welcome again to another episode of Soul Sisters. We are at Part 13. Surprise.

Brenda Rachel  0:39  
I didn't know if we'd make it this far.

Vonne Solis  0:41  
Of the Soul Sisters series. I'm Vonne.

Brenda Rachel  0:44  
I'm Brenda. And together, we are the Soul Sisters! 

Vonne Solis  0:51  
Okay. So those of you who have followed us from Part 1, you're probably getting sick of that. But anyway, it is kind of fun. 

Brenda Rachel  0:57  
But we never get sick of it.

Vonne Solis  0:59  
No, but we really are soul sisters, and it was really kind of cool when we discovered that. And I hope you can discover that with your own sister, if you have one and are feeling a bit disconnected. I believe we choose here to be sisters. 

Brenda Rachel  1:13  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:14  
All family work through things, and you don't have to be the same to have a close relationship or develop one.

Brenda Rachel  1:23  
Right. I totally agree with you.

Vonne Solis  1:24  
You know? And I think that sometimes we think about sisters as being super close because they're going through the same experiences. Having babies together and stuff like that. Well at the same time. You know what I mean? And then when you have absolutely zero. Like, well, I would say zero.

Brenda Rachel  1:42  
Well yeah, like us.

Vonne Solis  1:43  
Yeah, like, zero.

Brenda Rachel  1:45  
Right as children I didn't.

Vonne Solis  1:46  
But everything's different. Our personality, everything about us is different.

Brenda Rachel  1:51  
Yep. 

Vonne Solis  1:51  
And so it's kind of interesting when you, you know, develop some introspection a little bit later in life because, you know, when you start thinking about life. And seeing people pass away around you, or having had death in your family. That sort of thing, and you start thinking about what you do or don't want to leave behind in terms of relationship dysfunction or unsolved or, I should say, unresolved issues or no communication at all. And we kind of just agreed that, yeah, well, you know, let's get to know each other. 

Brenda Rachel  2:29  
Exactly.

Vonne Solis  2:30  
 And see what this is about.

Brenda Rachel  2:31  
Exactly.

Vonne Solis  2:32  
Right? Yeah?

Brenda Rachel  2:33  
It is. (Singing) Getting to know you. 

Vonne Solis  2:33  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  2:33  
(Singing) Getting to know all about you. 

Vonne Solis  2:38  
I will not sing. Anyway, so welcome. Anyway, what we decided to do so in Part 12, the first nine episodes of the series has taken you through basically our upbringing. Coming from dysfunction. Having disability for Bren. Me, bereavement. Loss of my child in 2005 as the biggest challenges for us to enhance, I would say our spiritual practice. Enhance our consciousness. You know, come in contact with our purpose. Refine it and really even expand on that in how we are in our later years. And so that's what that's all about. And then we decided to continue, sort of ad hoc these episodes. However many we end up doing, until we don't do them anymore, just on things we're kind of going through and go, Oh okay, that might be a great one to sort of share, because we're figuring it out or, it's a reminder for us. 

Vonne Solis  3:51  
So today, we want to talk about how to stay in a solution-oriented mindset. Last week, we talked about Part 12, and it's a great episode to listen to. The small i am versus the huge I AM. Where I came up with this, the saying at the very end of that episode, Source is Your Driving Force, but literally referring to I AM all caps as the supreme, as the Source, as the Divine, as God. As whatever you think of as something more than we can understand, and drives us to have purpose. A spiritual practice. Anything like that, versus when we get into small i am, i am signifying, well, I'm even getting the word today, weakness. But in our vulnerability, in our humanness. And go to that episode if you want to know how we came up with doing a topic on it. We explain all of that. Um. 

Vonne Solis  5:01  
And so it was really, really funny. And so we were email, messaging, texting each other, maybe on Monday, maybe Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday this week, and today's Thursday. And both Brenda and I, both you and I, were feeling kind of uh blah. And so just to say. No matter where you are in your spiritual consciousness, your development, your practice, your purpose, or anything in life. How perfect, how great life is going, any of us can get, you know, struck down for minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, with feeling stuff that is just not centered with who we are in our Truth.

Brenda Rachel  5:39  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  5:40  
Which for you is? What's your truth? 

Brenda Rachel  5:43  
Basically, whole, complete. Oh, perfect, whole, and complete. 

Vonne Solis  5:48  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  5:48  
Right. Yeah. Being. But I get periods where I feel completely devastated and sad, just not even depression. It's kind of just a melancholy.

Vonne Solis  6:03  
Ahh, that's a good word for it, sis. 

Brenda Rachel  6:04  
Melancholy. And just absolutely, I'm going through chronic fatigue right now, and have been since December, and it's now September, regularly. So I get set back quite often, and just have to rest. I can't I can go no further. So from being a very active person to all of a sudden seeing the limitations I have with a healthy mind, but the body isn't cooperating. So I find that I go into my small i am. Limitation zone.

Vonne Solis  6:42  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  6:42  
All the things i am not capable of doing. 

Vonne Solis  6:45  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  6:46  
And, yeah. So our phone call. 

Vonne Solis  6:49  
So, yeah, so get, so get, it was a text, actually, and, and, and, I think we phoned right away. Okay, I phoned right away because I thought, okay, I don't you know. I was feeling a bit bluesy, I guess, too and by all accounts, my life is going great. And, you know, just great. So we went, Oh! And so, but what was funny is Brenda had texted me, i am, all of those things. And I go, I text back, i am, and I go, Oh, wait, I better put small letters i am, because I know this is the human me, the ego me talking. It's not my spirit essence and soul reflecting this. There's something, a disconnect going on there. And that's okay. We say, that's okay. And then I look back at her text, and she had done the same thing. She had done small i am. And so I phoned her right away, and I went, Oh, I see you did that too, and that's so cool. I hadn't seen that in the text. Just to say, our work has infiltrated our minds in just that short period of time, maybe a couple weeks. 

Brenda Rachel  7:55  
Yeah, yeah.

Vonne Solis  7:56  
To make the differentiation.

Brenda Rachel  7:58  
Well, to understand, understand that I was in i am. Just the human condition.

Vonne Solis  8:03  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  8:04  
The human condition state.

Vonne Solis  8:05  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  8:05  
I was acknowledging it, right? 

Vonne Solis  8:07  
But you were expressing it to another person as well.

Brenda Rachel  8:09  
Right. Right. Now that knew what that meant. 

Vonne Solis  8:12  
That knew what that meant.

Brenda Rachel  8:13  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  8:13  
But that's we've put it into practice. 

Brenda Rachel  8:15  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  8:15  
We have put it into our life practice. And what that means is we know the difference between spiritually, soul, we're not that way. Human? We are. And it's okay. It's okay because that's how we kind of get ourselves out of it. Which is bringing it to our topic today in Part 13, which is how to stay in a solution-oriented mindset. Try saying that three times, really fast. I'll let you do that. I had to edit my first tryout.

Brenda Rachel  8:46  
Oh.

Vonne Solis  8:47  
But at any rate, and so we got talking about that. And so let's just dive right into it, because I actually have been talking with a few people recently and it has come to my sort of awareness that, you know, there are people that don't know. Don't naturally function from being solution-oriented. Now, obviously this is phrased in a positive mindset. You have to already be sort of, you know, thinking more positively, glass half-full type thing to find a solution. If you're still looking glass half-full, all the problems and focused on that. And we've done everything glass half empty, and we have done episodes and talked about that, and I think Part 10 of Soul Healing, and to some extent, probably in Part 11. You know, because these things are so intertwined with everything we do and talk about in our life, so we keep circling back to stuff like this, um, ego versus spirit and so on and so forth. But so having having a go to as your natural mindset, that I am going through something here, but I know there is a solution for it. Even if it's anxiety, fear, hurt, pain, you know, distress, sadness, sorrow, whatever. It's acknowledging that humanness, but then going to the solution that is not necessarily an external thing, okay? It's not like call the plumber. It's more like a return to center. 

Vonne Solis  10:22  
It is the it is a complete for me, allowing myself, giving myself permission to not be perfect spiritually and in my in my soul. Which I don't really put that pressure on myself. But sometimes, and we've talked about that too, when you have a fairly developed spiritual practice and expanded consciousness and mindset, you know, it can be a little bit of a contrast, and even conflict, inner conflict, to experience, still, the human stuff.

Brenda Rachel  10:55  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  10:55  
And go, I should, no better. I shouldn't be creating this or I shouldn't, I shouldn't even, you know, be feeling this way. I should have a solution instantly and all of this stuff. And look, life doesn't happen that way. So that's what today is all about. Just hashing it out with us and just going, Okay. I think I phoned you, and the first thing I said, or second or third was, well, let's do a Soul Sisters episode on Thursday. And we went, yep. And immediately that changed our vibration. 

Brenda Rachel  11:25  
Exactly, exactly. We both exactly. I was smiling.I was laughing. I was I said, and both of us said almost simultaneously, how much better we just felt in that moment.

Vonne Solis  11:36  
Right.

Brenda Rachel  11:37  
Yeah. So I'm just going to go back to one thing here.

Vonne Solis  11:39  
Sure.

Brenda Rachel  11:39  
So when we're talking about solution, so immediately I get flash through my head. Across my forehead the ticker tape. Soul in quotes, s, o, u, l - lut. U t i o n. So,  soul-ution.

Vonne Solis  11:57  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  11:59  
So even staying in or S O L E.  Sole by yourself. 

Vonne Solis  12:04  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  12:04  
Sole-ution. So rather than staying in the sole. S O L E, and just sole-ution is seeing that there is a more spiritual way, which is through the soul. The S O U L. There is a solution. And everything, everything is within us. We, we are so fortunate that we are our own dictionary, our own guide, our own whatever. If we look really deep within, we have all the answers, and we just have to tune into that place. Tap tune in, tap in wherever, to what resonates with us. Because I know for myself when I'm in a place of allowing myself to be down or sad or ill-health or whatever, I allow myself that journey. But then I say, Okay, where do I go now? What do I tap into? Which part of that knowingness inside of me, where that comes from, the soul. Where I know I can become, I can ascend from this pit that I'm in.

Vonne Solis  13:20  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  13:20  
And so that's what I mean by soul, s, o, u, l - lution.

Vonne Solis  13:25  
I love that. I absolutely love that. I would just say, tune in, tap into our wisdom. And if we don't feel we have it, ask for it. Ask for the wisdom or the guidance or the direction or the solution. We work with angels. We've talked about it all throughout our series. We're both Angel healing practitioners. And I used to work one on one with clients for 10 years. I did that as a channel and you worked for a number of years with clients. And neither of us are really doing that right now. We're doing this instead. But that is just to say that we both know and can attest to not only the power, but the Truth to wherever this wisdom comes from. 

Vonne Solis  14:17  
So for those that don't believe in a higher power. Don't believe in it's possible to communicate with angels or, you know, loved ones from the afterlife, or any other, and I'm just going to say here, positive being energy source in the other vibration. Let's just call it another vibration. Well, okay. You don't believe it. But that can never, ever, ever take away the truth of my daughter visiting me for many, all her, all 19 years, although she doesn't come as frequently anymore, leaving physical signs. Having Angel visits in human form three times, essentially. And many, many, other. Many other examples of their presence. And I guess at the at the just to sort of say to anybody who is a non-believer, or is a believer, but hasn't experienced anything like that yet, I would just say that you know your truth is your truth. Our truth is our truth. And we respect that. For anybody out there, we ask the same respect. If you don't believe it, that's fine. We're not we've always said we're not here to try and get people to do something or, you can't. It's all a personal journey. However you're going to get through this life, it's just a personal journey. 

Vonne Solis  15:37  
But for me, I immediately felt comforted and guided by the angels. I had already been working with them for just a few short months, when Janaya died in 2005. And you had already been working with them, and then it just catapulted in the stratosphere into where that journey has taken well, both of us, really. So as authors of our books, where the angels are very, very present and part of all of the words that we express in our books, and just anything else we're doing in our in our purpose work, and our personal life. And that has helped me have a solution-oriented mindset.

Brenda Rachel  16:15  
Correct, correct.

Vonne Solis  16:15  
Right?

Brenda Rachel  16:15  
Me too. Yeah. 

Vonne Solis  16:17  
So let's talk for a minute about, I just want to talk for a second and you can add on that if you want just before I introduce this. But I will just say so then I do want to start at the thing about, at a point about, you know, allowing ourselves to feel crappy and being sick and being whatever. There's anything. Take, take take a number.

Brenda Rachel  16:39  
Anything in our negative consciousness. 

Vonne Solis  16:41  
Yeah. A to Z take a number. But so it's okay to feel sorry for yourself, all that stuff, all that stuff. I think we need to actually feel that as a human? To kind of go, Okay, that's interesting I'm feeling this. Maybe you don't know why. And some of us who feel we have, I gotta be careful how I say this. But some of us who feel that we maybe have advanced enough in this lifetime consciously, or are advancing enough this in this lifetime consciously to return to wherever we return to. I love just saying infinity. To Source. To wherever you know? I don't know where we go, but it's somewhere. It's somewhere. And so even just to think and entertain the fact that something, some part of us energetically, lives? Okay And we can tap into that. So for people doing past life regression, think about that. A lot of people are interested in, what did I, you know, what was my past life? And you know, what am I carrying in this life as a result of that? So for anybody that believes in the Afterlife, reincarnation, etc, etc, we're already thinking about, okay, we don't really die. 

Vonne Solis  17:58  
So um, it can be, you know, like feelings of isolation, sorrow, sadness for the earth, for the planet, same thing, but you know, for the people. For well, you you add to it, because you're really good at talking in those terms. I'm not as good as it I don't think, and we're not competing, but I'm just saying. It, we can, you have felt. I feel because you didn't have a family to distract you for so many years like I did. And we pour our love into our kids and our families and spouses sometimes, and homes and everything for everybody else but ourselves. And then when we're left with the opportunity to just be with us. Our soul, our spirit, just us. Because we come here alone as we know. We leave alone, right? So you've had more opportunity to contemplate that. And you know, I mean, and I'm just saying you can live listen, you can be by yourself, and not have kids and family and all that, and still pour your your heart and soul into everybody else. But I'm just talking you specifically. 

Brenda Rachel  19:13  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  19:14  
I know you've spent time contemplating this. I know you have felt things that we refer to as homesickness. So do you want to just expand on that for your personal experience, what that has felt like for you. 

Brenda Rachel  19:28  
Okay, so for me, I've lived a very solitary life. And even though I've been, you know, was working for 48 years, big offices, 350 people. For many, many of those 28 years there and just doing different things, ssoo surrounded by people during the day. But I'm a very solitary person and I am a deep thinker. And I am so I spend a lot of my time now, when I'm not around people, and I'm not doing all my outdoor activities that I used to do. Which was all to do, basically with water and rafting. All kinds of things, but dragon paddling, etc. But now I have a lot of time to think. 

Brenda Rachel  20:16  
And so when Vonne refers to homesickness, we're talking about my inner passion almost, for feeling and and and just almost like I want to say, eat it up, but that's not the right words. But just thriving on the knowledge that there is a place that I'm going to ascend beyond here that is going to be so peaceful and just so, it will be a harmonious, loving, peaceful environment where I'm going into another dimension. And that homesickness for me, wanting to go there. And so I spend many, many hours contemplating what it will be like on the other side, and how different I my experiences will be. I don't know whether I'll remember any. Probably won't remember. Don't want to remember any of this earth life or any of my path.

Vonne Solis  21:28  
I think, but I'll just jump in real quick because I think that we might, and it won't have any meaning for us, though. I get that from Janaya.

Brenda Rachel  21:35  
Oh, okay.

Vonne Solis  21:35  
It's no meaning. It's like acknowledging it. I was there. 

Brenda Rachel  21:39  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  21:39  
I did it. It doesn't even factor into for her first several years, she was 22 when she died. For the first several years of her coming to see me because I needed her. Okay I'm not so sure she needed to visit, but maybe she did. Because some channels I went to, you know, who were able to bring her through, you know, they she felt terrible for ending her life. And this is not uncommon for any medium. And I did a week long medium training with James Van Praagh in September 2015, and for one whole week, Monday to Friday, we all 100 of us did mediumship with each other most of the day when he wasn't doing something. It was like, get right to it, kind of like Angel Therapy. It was like, get right to it and start pair up and, you know, and do your stuff. And we anyway, it was amazing. And there weren't that many like suicides. I brought one through who had been a suicide for a friend. And and someone you know brought my girl to me. And in all the years that it happened that you know, so when we were at our Angel Therapy, there were mediums, there. People very gifted and being able to bring loved ones through and stuff like that. And you never really know who's going to come through, but when they do, it's amazing. And of all the suicides I've read about or had experience in my own life personally with leaving that way, although I have no judgment about it. No judgment. And the one who has gone has no judgment about the way they left. But they feel, as did my daughter, terrible for the pain their death left behind. 

Vonne Solis  23:31  
They didn't think about that. They didn't think about that. And it's possible, I'm just throwing this out there, if anybody is watching this or listening to this, who is dealing with a su is a suicide loss survivor and is struggling with that death. I believed for a long time and learned sort of through all the teachings, and for those first few years, 10 years, I'd say 2005 to 15, I was majorly working to expand my practice. My my own abilities and things like that, and learning from others and who had considerable experience and had been basically, basically international, like leaders of their age of that period. And, you know, it's, it's like, I it's not that they in their soul, they feel sick for doing it. Because I believe that oh, and I hope I don't get in trouble saying this, but if I do okay. And by that, I just mean criticism and so on. But, you know, listen, I kind of do believe that even a suicide is contracted. And...

Brenda Rachel  24:49  
Absolutely.

Vonne Solis  24:50  
It's part of their, sure, it's part of their journey to leave.

Brenda Rachel  24:53  
Living every day. Everybody in this dimension or any other dimension...

Vonne Solis  24:58  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  24:58  
is a contract.

Vonne Solis  24:59  
Now there is a will, a willpower and all that. And we're not going to talk about that today. But what I'm saying is it is possible that, however you transition, a person transitions, and you get to the other side, and if you have done harm to yourself to end your life. I mean, that's pretty big, you know. Whether, like, I don't believe there's any retribution or anything like that when we cross. I just kind of but I do feel because someone brought my my dad, our dad through at the James Van Praagh training in 2015. It was my the last experience we had doing a mediumship exchange. And I felt so bad for this guy who was about, I'd say, in his like, no later than late 30s and he was sobbing because he had this man he was bringing through. He didn't know who it was, and it ended up being my dad who felt terrible for not having communication with me for 18 years before he died. I mean, we, we actually reconnected a year and 15 months before he died. But so I think people can take like Janaya felt terrible for leaving you know, the pain. Me suffering and everybody suffering from her death.

Vonne Solis  25:00  
So what I am saying, and I'm sort of getting a little bit off track here but this is important. I'm meant to say this for some reason. That that in the other when we transition. In the other vibration as ongoing consciousness. No matter what we have done okay in our life and we have left, how we make up for that in that vibration, that's nothing we know about here on Earth. And they don't share that. And by the way, I asked my daughter for years, when she visited me why she died, and she never would tell me. Never. And we had telepathic communication until our last visit where I was able to hug her, and it was the most amazing feeling. Oh, my God. Because those visits were always I knew she was in spirit. I knew that. But and looked radiant every single one. There was never, ever, ever, anything about, you know, past stuff that she had had nothing to do with even acknowledging her life on this planet. It had everything to do with teaching me what I needed to go forward in, basically my work and my personal life. In my healing. 

Vonne Solis  27:30  
So so having all of that kind I guess as a background, has really helped me frame my bereavement in more positive, in a more positive light. Which getting back to solutions and this feeling of emptiness. I think I started that with this homesickness. Who wouldn't want to go home to that, right? They are perfect, whole and complete, but they don't see it that way, because I they don't need to.

Brenda Rachel  28:03  
Right.

Vonne Solis  28:04  
They just are a vibration of the purest...

Brenda Rachel  28:09  
Light.

Vonne Solis  28:10  
energy. And you could say it's light. Most of them don't come they don't come to us as  light. My like, my...

Brenda Rachel  28:19  
No I'm just saying...

Vonne Solis  28:20  
but we are light. I know that we are light, but lights and energy. But it's this pure love. It's love. And so to if I hadn't had that, I'd have been in a very dark place, and I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you about try to find solutions.

Brenda Rachel  28:37  
Right.

Vonne Solis  28:37  
I probably wouldn't be on the planet to tell you the honest truth. So for you coming to the planet and others maybe are watching or listening to this that are resonating with this homesickness, easy to if you want to find solutions and get yourself out of it and pep up and find something bright out there. It's a beautiful, bright, sunny day here where we are in central Vancouver Island. The ocean right behind us. Blue and sparkling. You can't see it, but it's there. Very easy to get centered and go, oh yeah, beautiful planet. Life's good. I have everything I need for today. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when we're homesick or problems are too big, we need something, something to gravitate back to that. You know? And so what do you do? So like, I'll ask you this. Is this homesickness, because, by all accounts we've said before, both of us have a life we're living, the life we're living that we want for today.

Brenda Rachel  28:37  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  28:43  
Could change, but for today, we have everything we want.

Brenda Rachel  29:40  
I have nothing, absolutely nothing to complain about...

Vonne Solis  29:54  
Right.

Brenda Rachel  29:54  
in my life. Nothing.

Vonne Solis  29:55  
Right. You've manifested. I've manifested everything we've ever wanted for years.

Brenda Rachel  30:02  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  30:02  
Right? In divine time, its own time and all of that but we've done it. If you want something, you're going to get it right? We don't really create problems for ourselves, but we do have challenges.

Brenda Rachel  30:13  
Yeah right.

Vonne Solis  30:15  
We do have challenges. And we do struggle with anxiety.

Brenda Rachel  30:19  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  30:20  
Right? We've been honest about that. I do live with PTSD, which I've been very public about. I'm not getting it treated. My choice for a number of reasons. So I'm managing it. And I'm largely not getting it treated because there's really not a specialist here I could work with, and also, I don't want to revisit my trauma. So I just manage stuff, and I'm really good at it now, very good. But anxiety is part of that. And anxiety, I think, is anxiety related to Fibro?

Brenda Rachel  30:49  
Yes. 

Vonne Solis  30:50  
It is hey?

Brenda Rachel  30:51  
Yeah, anxiety and chronic fatigue.

Vonne Solis  30:55  
Why? Why do they ever say? Did you ever find out how anxiety relates to chronic I mean, Fibro?

Brenda Rachel  31:01  
No, because I don't really know if they really know too much about Fibro.

Vonne Solis  31:05  
But it is, Oh, true.

Brenda Rachel  31:07  
Right.

Vonne Solis  31:08  
But they, but they have pinpointed that anxiety is related to fibromyalgia. So a lot of people are anxious. I actually am wondering if a lot of people are anxious because they're homesick.

Brenda Rachel  31:21  
Well.

Vonne Solis  31:22  
Worth thinking about.

Brenda Rachel  31:23  
Yeah, it's worth thinking about for sure. I think for me, it's just because I know that the other side is not like here.

Vonne Solis  31:34  
I know.

Brenda Rachel  31:34  
I just know that, you know. I know I've lived many, many, many lifetimes in all kinds of dimensions. But I also understand my own inner soul understanding and comprehension is that the other side, the other, the next dimension that I'm going to go to is nothing like here.

Vonne Solis  31:59  
Oh, I know. No, they no it's not like here.

Brenda Rachel  32:01  
You know, so knowing that, just knowing that, and understanding that, and and in my heart place, when I think about the other side, it's like, I'm at peace. I'm truly, truly, truly at peace.

Vonne Solis  32:16  
Is that your solution that like, for when you're feeling homesick, heart sick. I love how you said, Did you say heart sick? 

Brenda Rachel  32:22  
Well, in my heart. Yeah.

Vonne Solis  32:23  
Heart sick.

Brenda Rachel  32:24  
I didn't say heart sick, but that's...

Vonne Solis  32:26  
Well, what did you say?

Brenda Rachel  32:27  
No, I just said that, knowing it from my heart, you know about the...

Vonne Solis  32:31  
Oh okay.

Brenda Rachel  32:31  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  32:32  
Because I heard heart sick.

Brenda Rachel  32:33  
Yeah, yeah. Well.

Vonne Solis  32:34  
Maybe when I edit this, maybe when I edit this, you will have said heart sick, but you didn't even know you said it.

Brenda Rachel  32:39  
Could be.

Vonne Solis  32:40  
Because to me, heart sick was Oh yeah.

Brenda Rachel  32:42  
You know, yeah.

Vonne Solis  32:43  
Like, I'm I'm homesick because my heart is sick.

Brenda Rachel  32:46  
So that makes, that makes...

Vonne Solis  32:48  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  32:48  
So that makes total, absolutely...

Vonne Solis  32:51  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  32:51  
total sense, right?

Vonne Solis  32:52  
Yeah. I'm pausing just for a sec here in my own thoughts. I'm not pausing the tape. I'm not pausing the recording. I'm just pausing because I'm thinking to myself, how many people are heart sick? We live on a planet that causes us to feel stress and anxiety in so many ways. I mean, there's hundreds of millions of people with anxiety folks. Try to find somebody who doesn't have some kind of, might not be a disorder, but some kind of anxiousness about them. Who you know, how many, how many, how many times have you heard in the last four years, and certainly since the pandemic, and we're in August, September, right now, of 2024 that society is broken. The country's broken. I mean, you know, I don't know how many countries are saying it, but they've sure said it in Canada, and they've sure said it in in America. And things are breaking down. And that does cause stress, and it does cause anxiousness for people. We don't feel safe. We don't feel secure. And for those of us who feel we've had enough? Now we're not talking about the human i am. Small i am. i've had enough. We're talking about the Source. I AM. And knowing, and we've talked about this in previous episodes too, that you still have a reason to be here, and that's why you are here. And like me are going it all the way. We go out when it's our time to go. Not going to do anything to rush that. That's just our perspective on it for for the moment.

Vonne Solis  34:35  
But you know, I find it just so interesting, well, culturally and socially, so many norms that we've had are breaking down, and we're having to re rebuild. And it's like this, it's like, maybe this is necessary for a new consciousness group of people. Like even if you look at the latest generation of babes coming in and very young children. And I think they're far advanced than you know what we have been in pre in in previous generations. They're very talented. If you watch talent shows and stuff, and they're getting up there at eight, nine years old, six years old, performing in front of thousands of people with gifts that you're going, What?

Brenda Rachel  35:22  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  35:23  
What? And it really made me think, I wonder if society, humankind, is advancing consciously in its own way, and we are part of the generations that didn't come in, weren't birthed in, that that that are part of the breakdown. And anyway, it's interesting.

Brenda Rachel  35:48  
Because you can only re, you can only rebuild once you've had a breakdown.

Vonne Solis  35:51  
Correct.

Brenda Rachel  35:51  
So you know you need something to to totally demolish and disseminate. So whether it's health. Disseminating, you know, my body and breaking everything, many, many areas of my body down, and having them rebuild.

Vonne Solis  36:10  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  36:10  
And all that kind of stuff, or...

Vonne Solis  36:12  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  36:12  
relationship, or whatever it takes, you can't rebuild unless it's it's been broken.

Vonne Solis  36:20  
That's right. And anyway, there's a term in quantum physics, entropy. And chaos has to be like it's a rebuilding from the chaos, but the chaos is required for it to rebuild. And while I wouldn't necessarily say we are in chaos on the planet, there are some, maybe there

Brenda Rachel  36:44  
We are very much in chaos.

Vonne Solis  36:46  
Oh, you do think so?

Brenda Rachel  36:47  
Oh absolutely.

Vonne Solis  36:48  
Okay, maybe we are. I don't know. I guess it depends. I don't even know. So whether it is or it isn't, but I think we're close to it. We may already be there. So it's no wonder that you feel homesick and heart sick and so I was just gonna say, I wonder if we can be soul sick.

Brenda Rachel  37:07  
Well.

Vonne Solis  37:07  
Probably. I mean.

Brenda Rachel  37:08  
I think...

Vonne Solis  37:09  
I don't know.

Brenda Rachel  37:09  
because I think everything stems from the soul. Everything you know, like our social means everything. So that's where it starts.

Vonne Solis  37:16  
Yeah, so if we're in Part 10, we've done soul healing...

Brenda Rachel  37:19  
Yeah, and my soul sickness. Sorry, we're backtracking here.

Vonne Solis  37:23  
We are, but we're having this conversation that we're meant to have. But, I mean, I'm thinking about it because...

Brenda Rachel  37:28  
We're understanding that's what we're talking about, the soul as a well, soul-ution...

Vonne Solis  37:32  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  37:32  
is because it starts in the soul.

Vonne Solis  37:34  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  37:34  
So this is where this is our container. Our soul is our container of absolutely everything. Every eon, every eon we've ever lived.

Vonne Solis  37:43  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  37:43  
You know.

Vonne Solis  37:44  
Got it. And you know, we could go down a whole path about talking about why we're here. Why are you here audience? As an individual, why are we here? We kind of know why we're here in our respective paths, but and when you do know why you're here, by the way, and accept it and go, Okay, I'm here. And I'm going to do this purpose work. I'm going to fulfill what I contracted to do as a soul. Feeding part of that soul. We've already talked previously in episodes about what we think about soul. You'll find all that out in other episodes. Soul Healing and, you know, and other work I've done. Essentially, for me, it's just a tapestry. We're a little bit of it. We feed to it. And, you know, until, until. But that's as far as I got with it.

Vonne Solis  38:35  
Part of my purpose is, absolutely, to heal the soul of this incarnation. The contribution to the soul in this incarnation by way of bereavement, as a bereaved mother, but I also, through acupuncture, was connected to the larger person, which is ah purpose, which is actually to heal all of my soul from all incarnations. And that's mine. That's my purpose. So I have a completely, sort of larger perspective. When I talk about soul, it's become, it's become expansive of all I've ever lived. And I don't know why. I was actually just talking to a friend yesterday, and I was explaining some of this to her, and she was fascinated by it, and and I was like, but, you know, like, I really don't have the answers. And as I'm given this information, which happens to come to me through acupuncture, you know, it's, it's, it's made me carefully schedule the appointments because I don't know what I'm going to find out next. And I'm like, oh my goodness. But I do, and we both believe that we are only given what we can handle. But our brains are, only, you know, able to take in so much at the same time, and I guess too much knowledge would become very difficult within the constraints of not only our humanness, but the world as it is.

Brenda Rachel  39:55  
I think also for me, like I identify, I'm an empath, so I feel. I feel things that, other people who don't have that, that innate...

Vonne Solis  40:09  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:09  
sort of understanding and compassion in their from their soul.

Vonne Solis  40:13  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:14  
Within them, that I feel things. Like I can remember when I was like 10, watching something. We got a TV when, when I was 10. And, you know, there, I think the Vietnam War in the 60s was on. Like, you know, because I was 50 born in 53 so 63 so somewhere..

Vonne Solis  40:35  
Yes, it was on.

Brenda Rachel  40:36  
I can remember watching all the killing on TV. It was a black or white TV, and sob just just leaning, sitting on the floor in the living room, and sobbing.

Vonne Solis  40:46  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:46  
I mean sobbing, sobbing my heart out.

Vonne Solis  40:48  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:49  
Because I couldn't understand how people could kill each other.

Vonne Solis  40:53  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:53  
And then actually seeing them kill each other?

Vonne Solis  40:56  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  40:56  
That was like, in my 10 year old mind was almost incomprehensible. So so I think having that quality as well, it's not just kind of being able to brush things off and saying, Oh, well, this is life. Things happens, crap happens. You know, like whenever or this happening in our country. Aren't we lucky?

Vonne Solis  41:17  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  41:18  
It's like, yeah, I internalize. So part of my soul healing is to understand that every situation that's going on in the world, it's it's not my reality. It's not a part of my reality. And I haven't created to be in that particular situation.

Vonne Solis  41:39  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  41:39  
And so if I can allow myself to say, those people are having that in their reality, but I don't have to internalize it in my reality.

Vonne Solis  41:50  
Right.

Brenda Rachel  41:50  
To the degree that I was before.

Vonne Solis  41:52  
Oh, that's good.

Brenda Rachel  41:53  
Kind of releasing the the I want to say. I don't know the word. That I was putting on the pressure I was putting on myself to to say, how, how can I stop this?

Vonne Solis  42:10  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  42:10  
What can I, how can I fix it?

Vonne Solis  42:12  
Yeah. Well, we can't. We can't.

Brenda Rachel  42:14  
No, no, I know.

Vonne Solis  42:15  
How many conversations did we have about seeing world peace before we die?

Brenda Rachel  42:20  
Yeah. Oh I know.

Vonne Solis  42:22  
Brenda used to believe in it, and I was always the one that was a little more skeptical. We're talking even just maybe, maybe two, three years ago, talking about that.

Brenda Rachel  42:31  
Yeah. Before the pandemic. Before the...

Vonne Solis  42:33  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  42:34  
pandemic. That, that kind of, I would say that's where I saw, like, more global...

Vonne Solis  42:41  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  42:41  
global, like it happening in our part of the world.

Vonne Solis  42:45  
Well, it unified us.

Brenda Rachel  42:46  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  42:47  
The pandemic was the, you know, the thing, if you will, that I don't know what to call it, but it was the force. Whatever you want to call it, that unified us globally to say, Oh. I mean, it happened negatively for some, and very positively, probably for others, in terms of finding out who they were. And, you know, all of this stuff and new inventions and new ways of doing things and all of that. And and so it brought us together, because no one was safe from it.

Brenda Rachel  43:19  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  43:20  
It hit every part of the world. So unifying and good things don't have to necessarily, you know, come from only good things.

Brenda Rachel  43:34  
Correct, correct. no, so, absolutely.

Vonne Solis  43:37  
Okay, so millions died in the pandemic. And people lost jobs and other people found new careers and got to work at home and be with their families, which is still going on. It has completely changed the culture of work and worker's rights.

Brenda Rachel  43:54  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  43:55  
And in Canada, the feds are trying to get, you know, the federal government's trying to get people back into the office. I think, I think they had a requirement for three days, and I'm pretty sure the union's going to make it so that this is a right. You get to work at home part of the time, hybrid at a minimum. Other places are, yeah, work at home all the time. And, I mean, it is completely broken down...

Brenda Rachel  44:15  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  44:16  
certain systems that were in place, and we're in the process of those systems being rebuilt. Solutions. Solution-oriented thinking for absolutely everything on the planet. So this conversation for us is not just solution-oriented for, you know, personally and individually.

Brenda Rachel  44:39  
No no.

Vonne Solis  44:40  
It's globally, we're having to find solutions for how we do just about everything, because something about the pandemic broke everything down. System-wise and structurally, it broke everything down. And um, one of the things I noticed, I we're going to get back to solution in a second, but I just want to say is, so we live on a we live in a seaside city in in central Vancouver Island. So water is like right there. And in our little downtown, we live in a small city, and in our downtown core, we have a one wonderful sea walk. And I noticed my husband and I go down there, you know, periodically and go and do the two, three mile walk, whatever. And it's just lovely. And the last time I went, the last few times we've gone, I noticed a lot of people are walking, you know, head down and minding their own business. And we actually used to live down there. Our first two years in in our city, which we moved here eight years ago, we lived down there on the waterfront. And everybody was like, hi, hi, hi. And as a matter of fact, it was still that way at the little bay where we go for our coffee? And you walk with people there, and I think that's they're way more local. And walking along that's a very small stretch, maybe a mile, half a mile, or most, and everybody says hi there.

Vonne Solis  46:14  
But in the downtown area, where it's more likely to see people travelling, so tourism, things like that. We're not a big tourist city, but there is some tourism, and I was so shocked. This happened just two weeks ago, but it's it's been repetitive. It's being repetitive since the things opened up in 21, 22. And that's a sign of people being taught, don't touch. Watch your space, preserve your space. Everything individual and, you know, survival. And it is this whole protect, protective measure for the individual, where connection is extremely limited and selective, i.e. family and close friends. And it was shocking to see, you know?

Brenda Rachel  47:10  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  47:11  
And we were sort of, we're being, in some instances, trained to find solutions for things that are no longer working the way they did pre-pandemic. We're being trained culturally to have solutions for them that may or may not feel right for us, but socially, maybe we're just accepting them, Well, this is the way it is now. You know that we have to do this, we have to do this, we have to do this, you know? It's very interesting and, and so, you know, in in in terms of, and just another really quick example for certainly in North America. Other cultures out there, countries out there, may not have this problem, but because of the lack of employees, because of businesses falling, you know, apart, because of the pandemic, having to rebuild. You know, all of these having to find good people. Having to pay them competitive wages, all of this stuff. So what did they do? Their solution was, let's institute tipping to subsidize wages, essentially so that maybe workers could give people benefits. It's a big circle in case they get sick. Because, listen, COVID taught us, whoa, you could get sick at any moment, bring it into the workplace. We better have insurance. And we don't have enough doctors, and we don't have enough nurses, and there isn't one area where one thing is impacted that you can't that you you you don't have to find a solution for everything else that trickles down.

Brenda Rachel  48:37  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  48:38  
But when we think about it on an individual level because when we started talking about this, and I came up, well, let's do an episode on this, I was actually going to keep it just to the individual. But as we're talking, you can't.

Brenda Rachel  48:50  
No.

Vonne Solis  48:51  
You can't, because all of that stuff impacts us. And as an example, if we're already feeling homesick, heart sick, soul sick, and then we have measures in place culturally and socially because of something like the pandemic that is feeding more isolation and disconnect, that's not helping us.

Brenda Rachel  49:15  
No right.

Vonne Solis  49:17  
Because we need the connection and the community and saying hello and smiling at each other.

Brenda Rachel  49:25  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  49:25  
Right?

Brenda Rachel  49:26  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  49:27  
That's a solution for actually, even starting a spiritual practice, is just being kind and smiling at someone and connecting. And you don't have to have a long conversation, but just acknowledging each other and giving us each the respect that you know we can trust each other enough to allow each other into our personal space, even if just momentarily. And that is sorely being impacted.

Brenda Rachel  49:58  
I still do it. I say hi to people in the shopping and grocery store I shop at and along the sea wall and stuff like that but I used nothing, nothing like how I used to be before.

Vonne Solis  50:10  
Right.

Brenda Rachel  50:11  
At all.

Vonne Solis  50:11  
Right.

Vonne Solis  50:13  
So that's kind of going down a different sort of branch of the tree, if you will. But bringing it back to us. Let me get to this, because we could talk forever about that other stuff, but let's bring it back to this. So, when we are feeling centered within our being. So when you get into moments of you're, you know feeling, you know whatever you're feeling and you can describe it, how do you get yourself back to center? Do you like, respect it, allow it, and just let the phase pass? Like, what do you do?

Brenda Rachel  50:50  
Oh, I immediately when I know that it's taking me down a dark path, and, well, I wouldn't say dark, because I believe leaving here will be light, so I don't think that that it's too dark and I'm not afraid to die, but it's more I don't even think about dying. I just think about exiting here and having a new Home of Light and Love. And so but when I get into that place where I would say more than thinking about wanting to leave here knowing I'm here? And I'm going to be here for however long, I'm going to be here.

Vonne Solis  51:28  
Right.

Brenda Rachel  51:28  
So that in between phase so accepting that I'm here today for however long.

Vonne Solis  51:32  
Yes.

Brenda Rachel  51:33  
And so when I'm in and I'm not enjoying it for whatever reason.

Vonne Solis  51:37  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  51:37  
Like I'm not enjoying it. So then I go, but this is your creation. This is your manifestation.

Vonne Solis  51:44  
Okay.

Brenda Rachel  51:45  
So what is the bigger picture here? What is it that you're you're needing to learn for yourself about creating this really off moment and this off the beaten track how you regularly like to live your life moment, and which is totally not in a spiritual frame of mind. And so I just immediately ask the angels...

Vonne Solis  52:11  
Okay. 

Brenda Rachel  52:12  
to bring me back to center. And it's mo, it's not even a moment. It's like, you know... 

Vonne Solis  52:21  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  52:21  
that I understand the word purpose comes immediately to my mind. Purpose is one of the words. Follow your purpose work. You're here to do your purpose work. And that's why I'm here. And I know that, and I accept it, and I am so grateful that I have my purpose work. Yeah.

Vonne Solis  52:44  
So like it I will just say this. A couple weeks ago, I was tending to a little kitty I was looking after and, you know, and I sat down and I think pets. I'm not a pet owner anymore, but I was my whole entire adult life. And my husband and I decided not to replace our last kitty who passed in January of 2020. But I think pets can really help you get in touch with your inner spirit and your your core essence. You know, just looking into the eyes of an animal who's looking at you with sometimes wisdom - cats. No, I'm kidding.

Brenda Rachel  53:27  
No, I'm not. Ah, they are more than dogs.

Vonne Solis  53:30  
Well, dogs and dogs are looking at you, oh, pick me. Pick me. 

Brenda Rachel  53:31  
Dogs, well, dogs and cats, but

Vonne Solis  53:38  
Cat's more like I'm thinking about if I'm gonna pick you, right? And dogs are like, pick me. Yeah, anyway, no, that's that was just a little aside. But looking into their, their beautiful eyes and, and just their, you know, unconditional everything. Loyalty and, and they're there to love you no matter what. Okay, and I've had a really, I'm not gonna talk about this, but I'm gonna acknowledge this, because I'm an empath, too. And sometimes I would, you know, think about before I went to sleep, about all the people and all the animals in very, very vulnerable and actually not very good situations. And then I'd stop! Don't think about it. Don't think about it. But then it makes me think that in relation to in relation to animals. And you know, for the most part, we don't really, when we talk about animals, we usually talk about it in terms of, you know, cats and dogs.

Brenda Rachel  54:30  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  54:30  
But in in any animal, you know that they're in the care of a human, they're in that care, and they put up with whatever. And it could be oodles and oodles and oodles of love and comfort, in which they return it tenfold, but they still are there loyal when it's not that way.

Brenda Rachel  54:47  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  54:48  
And but at any way, I don't want to go down that topic, but that path, but so as I was sitting with this animal, and then just, you know, for whatever reason, oh, my God, I just wanted to, like cry. It was, like, this heavy weight was like, you know, oh my God. And because, listen, I am a bereaved mother. I attribute a lot of those moments. Well, when I have them, they're infrequent, but when I have them, I will attribute it to, oh, there's the trauma, or there's that sorrow, or there's that grief in there related to Janaya, and it may well be that's part of it. But then you and I started talking about how we can feel so sad and sorrowful in our soul for other things that are kind of going on on the planet and we don't have control over. We're just here, almost as witnesses, in some cases, to it. And my thing is, and this came from Wayne Dyer. One of his books is, you do what you can do in your sort of corner of the world and in the work that you do. Because when it's light work, you know, purpose work, light work, centered in, in all of these really good and helpful things to help others, it does trickle down, too.

Brenda Rachel  56:07  
Oh, absolutely.

Vonne Solis  56:08  
It does trickle. And we just keep we just keep on.

Brenda Rachel  56:11  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  56:11  
We just keep on. And so when you and I realized that it wasn't our responsibility to, you know, find a solution for world peace?

Brenda Rachel  56:19  
Right.

Vonne Solis  56:20  
We just do our little bit in our little corner. That was very freeing for me.

Brenda Rachel  56:25  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  56:26  
Was it freeing for you?

Brenda Rachel  56:27  
Yeah, yeah. Because I understand what my purpose is.

Vonne Solis  56:31  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  56:32  
And...

Vonne Solis  56:33  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  56:33  
as an individual.

Vonne Solis  56:34  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  56:35  
Like that, and what I have been gifted with to be able to do.

Vonne Solis  56:40  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  56:40  
And I'm just very grateful for that. Yeah.

Vonne Solis  56:42  
And I believe the more I delve into my own deepening awareness, the more I understand the Earth is a perfect place for, you know, certain entities, to carry out war and all of the darkness. This is a perfect place, as we said before, a smorgasbord of suffering. Take your pick, A to Z. It could be anything to suffer. This is maybe the planet, and perhaps it's the only planet in our system anyway, that offers this, you know? And we've had talks about it too, also choosing to come to this planet. We're not going to talk about that today, because we both believe there are other places you can go.

Brenda Rachel  57:34  
I sometimes think I brought, bought the wrong ticket. I think, I think I got on the wrong train.

Vonne Solis  57:47  
You met me!

Brenda Rachel  57:47  
Yeah I met you.

Brenda Rachel  57:48  
But then you know I've just got this image. If something happened, it turned (indecipherable).

Vonne Solis  57:52  
I actually did do that once. Heading to where was my I heading? I was heading somewhere now, and I think I did get on the wrong train. I think it was going to go to Morocco, and I really needed to go to Spain. Holy crap. And I was like, I don't think it's the right train, and I'm looking over at a train across on the across the tracks. And I literally bailed. I got off and ran over there. Oh, my God, it's kind of funny. That is funny. Are you on the right or wrong train? But you know it, it's one of the reasons I think we've probably gone down, we didn't know what we didn't know what we were going to talk about today.

Brenda Rachel  58:23  
No.

Vonne Solis  58:24  
Bren came over and, you know, I said, You know what? Like, I really have nothing. I don't know what I'm going to say, yeah, so we'll just and she's like, Yeah, I don't either. So I was okay, well, let's just let the words come out of our mouth, and it will impact those that are resonating and want to hear this stuff. So I'm quite surprised we're talking about this stuff.

Brenda Rachel  58:42  
Me too.

Vonne Solis  58:43  
Yeah. Well, I thought, yeah, no, because I really was gonna actually focus it all in the small i am human ego to all these little, you know, nuisances that we deal with on a daily basis, and have to find a solution for it. And things like, Oh, crap, this broke, or, you know, the car won't start, or any number of things that are basically nuisances.

Brenda Rachel  59:12  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  59:12  
Now, when we get to the bigger things of lost jobs, relationship breaks breakdowns. Like life events, death. You know sudden, sudden death in the family, longer term death, but big things like life events you know that are impacting and painful and getting yourself out of the mindset that can trap you in all of the negativity. The small i am. i am miserable. i am, you know, whatever, put your own adjective there. The thing that is coming to me that understanding and sharing about this awareness of everything we've talked about today on a much, much different and expanded level is really kind of like the umbrella to understand that that gives you the foundation to solve anything else.

Vonne Solis  1:00:12  
That's why we talked about it. Is because I could sit here and say, Well, you can do A, B, C and D when such and such hits you in bereavement, but I only have that knowledge and also as suggestions, by the way, simply because of the umbrella knowledge and being essentially wired to be a student of life and explore all these other things, which makes the anything we experience in human stuff. I don't care what it is. We've all been through breakups and job loss and money problems and, you know, moving and you know, all of that stuff. We've, most of us have been there if you're of a certain age. And if you're not there yet, guaranteed you're going to go through some of that stuff. It's just part of living. I call those sort of just life, life experiences. Events on a scale of losing a child, for example, or events where you are incapacitated, you know, and it's completely changed your life. So living with illness, disease, you know, things that have impacted you and causing them to be an event that utterly changes your life.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:37  
Well, I would just, you know, yeah, I would just throw in here that again, we're just talking about our own personal situations. 

Vonne Solis  1:01:44  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:44  
Because...

Vonne Solis  1:01:45  
Absolutely.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:45  
many people who have ascended multiple dimensions, living on this planet...

Vonne Solis  1:01:53  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:53  
with different afflictions.

Vonne Solis  1:01:54  
Yeah, yeah. 

Brenda Rachel  1:01:54  
And losing...

Vonne Solis  1:01:55  
Absolutely.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:56  
these kinds of things.

Vonne Solis  1:01:57  
Absolutely.

Brenda Rachel  1:01:57  
So we are again, we're talking about our own personal journeys.

Vonne Solis  1:02:02  
 Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:02:02  
And what we've learned through our experiences.

Vonne Solis  1:02:06  
Yes.

Brenda Rachel  1:02:07  
And making nothing light of somebody else's experience.

Vonne Solis  1:02:10  
No, no, no, no, nothing like that. But I'm just saying so whatever affliction, and, you know, a job loss could be magnitude, I mean, I get it, I get it, I get it. But for me, I'm just saying for me, personally. For you, personally, you've been bankrupt. 

Brenda Rachel  1:02:11  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:02:11  
You know, you went through bankruptcy. I've gone through so much financial hardship in the past. I put a stop to it when I understood what was going on and I was able to finally put a stop to it. But I've been there, done that. But even in that. Even in every single time we came up against financial struggles, there was a solution. And so what I'm saying is, so when you take it away from all the larger stuff we did talk about in this episode, unintentionally. Unintentionally, quote, unquote, but obviously intentionally, from a higher level, the solutions for problems, for anything from any experience or life event, they have to come from a consciousness of trust and faith. And I need you to jump in in a minute too. But, you know, I'm thinking back to, you know, just feeling super challenged to get out of bed when, when Janaya died, and to feed the fish and take the dog out and care for my 13 year old son at the time. And this went on for a few years. And get a job because there were money problems. And, you know, on and on and on and on and on it went. 

Vonne Solis  1:03:40  
And the anxiety from the PTSD stayed, has always, stayed with me. So I'm 19 years in, and I still can have periods of anxiety. So taking it to this human level. So for everything that became a mountain that wasn't even on the radar for other people. Starting a new job, like, you know, I mean, just like, terrified to do anything new. Terrified to travel. Ter you know, just all these things that eventually I had to very, very slowly incorporate back into my life. And I'm working on confidence today, folks. So it is an ongoing transformation and process for me, but as it is for most people. But I'm just saying I always was like solution. I got to find a solution. However, it really wasn't until, I'd say more recently, in the last year, year and a half, that I understood the anxiety as a driver of getting into survival mode. And we can't find solutions in survival mode. It's very difficult, unless you've got someone to kind of ring you in and help you with it. And go, okay, let's take this so step by step. Looking at what you're actually dealing with. And taking it literally, one little piece of it at a time. What do you need to do next?I

Brenda Rachel  1:05:09  
It's like a Rubik's cube. So you know when you're trying to get all the colours  on the same colour on a side?

Vonne Solis  1:05:16  
Yeah. 

Brenda Rachel  1:05:16  
So it's just taking one little piece of the Rubik's Cube and turning that to one colour, one different colour. That's, when you're trying to work with anxiety and change something. And so imagine doing that with all of the however many little sections there are in a Rubik's Cube of doing that, but for us the way I'm seeing it in my mind, with me who has anxiety, how it's so difficult turning it to just a different colour. And, and...

Vonne Solis  1:05:50  
Oh yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:05:51  
you know, like...

Vonne Solis  1:05:51  
Yeah, it's it's yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:05:53  
When you're in that, when you're in that, I'll almost say comfort zone of anxiety, because when you're in anxiety you know you're in anxiety. It's not like, Oh, what am I going through? Like, those of us, I believe, who have anxiety and are anxious know we're anxious. 

Vonne Solis  1:06:10  
Oh, for sure.

Brenda Rachel  1:06:11  
 You know like that. So I mean, we don't need to identify with them. 

Vonne Solis  1:06:15  
Oh, yeah, no, no, no. You know when you're having an episode, yeah? You know when you're having an episode of anxiety.

Brenda Rachel  1:06:21  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:06:21  
But I do believe that, and unless you know it. So you see, I didn't understand it until 10 years into my grief. Actually, I didn't understand until 2018 so, oh five, 18 is that 13 years, 13 years into my grief, when I read Dr. Bessel van der Kolk's, The Body Keeps the Score on on PTSD. An amazing, amazing book, and how the brain is functioning and what the brain is doing in trauma, of which anxiety is part of that. Okay, so same thing and anxiety and you don't have the capacity to really sit down and go, Okay, so, you know, I need a solution here. It's panic, sheer panic. And why we're panicking is that the the great fear is, I, you know, whatever it is for each of us. Whatever our fear is in that moment. It is all fear-based, obviously. So, you know, and we want control and things like that and we want things to be perfect. You know, if something breaks in our homes or something we want things perfect. We want things I don't want problems at the in the, in the final analysis, for me, it's always about I just want my life to go really smoothly, because I really don't want anyone else. The core, root of it, you know, is it for me. I don't want anyone else dropping dead, and I have to deal with it. That's the basic thing for me. And everything else that I want to control. All of these other things are just things that give me a sense of control, so I don't have to be humming along over here, worried about the deepest fear being that.

Vonne Solis  1:08:04  
So when you can, when you can take the anxiety, and we're not doctors. We're just talking, and you guys know that. We're just talking from experience and what we've learned. What I've learned, pieced together for myself and personally, have come to practice and rely on, is that if you can take it right down to what are you really, really afraid of? We understand that's always humming at the baseline. That's our baseline, okay? And is it ever going to go away for us? I don't know. But as long as I know what it is, then I can find solutions for the things that might set me off.Trigger me in anxiety that are really big triggers. And then once I've got solutions for that, then I know that the smaller things, like, is the package going to be delivered to my door? Stuff like that? Why? Well, because I don't want to run around my building looking for it, essentially. So you know, then those things, the solutions, are much easier to find because I'm in now a much calmer state, because I found solutions for the other really big things.

Vonne Solis  1:09:18  
And my really big thing, and I will be very honest about this for those of you who might be relating to this. So when you're a bereaved parent, our natural inclination is to be terrified we're going to lose another child. So very sadly for my son, he's had to live with that for 19 years. He's now 32. Thank God I did have a surviving child. I love my son to bits and pieces. But it really wasn't until this summer, he um, we even well he even thought of and certainly, you know that we together found a solution to put a Find My Phone. Switch it on on the iPhone. So I can see if I need to, if I'm worried about him, I can see he's A-Okay. Oh, here he is. And that was all a result of me, you know, constantly worrying about him as he lived alone and didn't have me as an emergency contact and things like that. And I've lived for years with because we live in different cities, this is at the core root of the vibrating, the baseline there. And so naturally, if I'm always in a state of anxiety because of that one thing, okay? Everything else, that would be not so much of a problem now becomes a problem.

Vonne Solis  1:10:38  
Fixing that this summer and putting medical alerts on our iPhone, knowing that should anything happen to him. So for all people living alone and not having an emergency contact, this can be huge for a loved one to you know, feel less anxiety if you are struggling with that and worried about a loved one. We have a medical alert on the phone so as contacts so that should anything happen, the phone is unlocked immediately. They can notify, you know, the contact that something's happened. You don't want it to happen, but it's just proper, you know, planning, and you can tell where someone is. I have even said to my son, you could turn that off, and he hasn't, and I am beyond grateful he hasn't, because it's allowed me to simmer down that hum. 

Brenda Rachel  1:11:27  
Well all you needed to know to just, you just needed to know where he was.

Vonne Solis  1:11:33  
That he's safe. Not necessarily where he was fully. Just safe. 

Brenda Rachel  1:11:36  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:11:37  
And, and so I've learned how to manage that within me, and I'm forever grateful we did that, because it was something that I struggled with for many, many, many years. So that's a really big thing. But in listening to this episode, you know, you might want to, I would invite you to think about what is at the core of your greatest anxiety. What is feeding that? Everything else, there could be millions of other things, but what is feeding that, and even the stress? And, you know, sort of, you know, bring it down to the the common, the common problem, like, that's not the right word I want. Reduce it down to the number one thing that's really driving that fear, causing the anxiety? If it is a disorder, obviously, that's a little dis different, but in a way, I don't think it is because there is a reason for even disorders.

Brenda Rachel  1:12:32  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:12:33  
Right? So I'm just going to say that. But even as to the best of your ability, with or without help from a therapist or other loved one, or whatever. We've often worked together to to narrow things right down to its common denominator. This is what's happening for me. This is why. And these are other triggers. Then you can get yourself in a calmer state, and then you can decide, Do I really want to worry about that package arriving at my door and at what time if it comes in the afternoon or in the evening? And, I mean, I'm using that as an example for me, and I get to choose and go, Well, you know what, if the package doesn't come, I can do A, B or C. Boom. Okay, done. I don't need to worry about that. And that's sort of my process today for just going, you know what? I can't have this eating away at me, because when we worry and when we are in a state that we are terrified of something, so in other words, we don't have control over it, right? That is not good for us.

Brenda Rachel  1:13:37  
No, exactly.

Vonne Solis  1:13:39  
What would you like to add to that?

Brenda Rachel  1:13:41  
Um, I think you've covered pretty much everything. I guess just for me, is I just try, now, when I know that I'm in a heavy-duty state of anxiety, is to sit and just take a breath.

Vonne Solis  1:13:53  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:13:54  
And go, Okay, on a scale of one to 10, where am I with my anxiety?

Vonne Solis  1:13:59  
Oh, that's a good one.

Brenda Rachel  1:14:00  
What can I do? So one, being like, I can do, take a few breaths and whatever, and attend being like, it's out of control. So, and what is the real issue going on here? So I try to identify right away what the real issue is, because there's always an issue.

Vonne Solis  1:14:21  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:14:21  
And it might have nothing to do with the circumstance at the moment. 

Vonne Solis  1:14:26  
Yep.

Brenda Rachel  1:14:26  
There's always some underlying current that's creating the anxiety in that moment.

Vonne Solis  1:14:31  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:14:32  
So I try. I try to get, to get to Ground Zero...

Vonne Solis  1:14:37  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:14:37  
right as quickly as possible. And then if it becomes something that is just like, I'd say, like a six or more that is extremely, extremely challenging? Then I just walk myself through the process and say, Okay, what are you really dealing with here? And then if I have to take some action, and whatever it is, then I start, you know, looking at ways of, I try to find a solution immediately. Like, I don't like to live in the issue very long, because I know it just manifests further. Like, because once I'm in a state of anxiety, and I haven't, and I don't address it immediately, it just gets out of control. It just mine doesn't just, oh, just flies away like in an hour. So it's a snowball and so it just manifests. And I already know that from living with anxiety for so many years, now that I know kind of the triggers of what's the route it's going to take, I know the exact route the anxiety is going to take, and so I just do my little scenario to get me to stay down between under five.

Vonne Solis  1:15:58  
Yeah. So I don't know if you want to share it, but you know, you know, if you want to, do would you say that the route for you is feeling safe?

Brenda Rachel  1:16:08  
Yeah, oh yeah. No my anxiety has always got to do with, do I feel safe in my home? Do I sav, do I feel safe in not so much in my car, but...

Vonne Solis  1:16:19  
But feel safe jsut in general, you feel safe?

Brenda Rachel  1:16:21  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:16:21  
Yeah. So me, it's the safety of my son. I've never even really thought about myself. That, but you and we, you talk about this in your book, about what brought that trauma on at four years old. And so get Brenda's book if you want to hear all about what made her live her incarnation, this life really, really, basically the root of the trauma of not feeling safe. And mine is because being a parent was was such a major like identity for me in this incarnation. So losing my first born naturally put me into this tailspin for 'til now, 19 years. And listen, that hasn't gone like I was going to say, 19 years of being concerned my son would die. And so two things I've done. So everything I told you earlier, what you know, all that stuff, is the physical stuff, the human iPhone stuff, okay?

Brenda Rachel  1:17:21  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:17:21  
The other part of it is for me going, you know, I can't control the lives of any of my loved ones. I probably can't even really control mine. Human, I believe that I know at a very subconscious level when I'm going and how I'm going, but consciously that hasn't filtered through to me yet. And I believe it will. Like we both knew our mom was going to go six months before she three three months. I think it was before three months, not six three, she was starting to actually make preparations. And even though maybe she knew she was doing that. She didn't phone us up and say, Hey, I'm making preparations, but we both said to each other, geez, it sounds like she's getting her stuff in order. I think she's getting ready to go. We said that to each other, didn't we? When she did three months later. Anyway, heart issue. Anyway, so that, just is an aside to say, I think that we do, you know, kind of start to resonate with, I think I'm my business is finished here, and I think I'm getting ready to kind of go home. And I hope we share that with each other when that happens. I hope we're evolved enough in consciousness and our communication that we can say, I don't know if it's going to happen, because we've got all our stuff in order. But you know, you and me anyway.

Brenda Rachel  1:18:43  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:18:44  
And maybe my husband would do that too, but I don't know if I'd do that with my son necessarily. But anyway, I'm just saying it it's like really getting to the root of, I got off track there a little bit, but getting to the the root of wanting my son always to be safe. So I don't know that that fear will ever leave me in this lifetime, you know? So all I can do is find solutions that will help me in my humanness, deal with it. Because I have no control.

Brenda Rachel  1:19:23  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:19:23  
And no awareness of if he's going before me or I'm going before him. But another thing we have done as a bit of a solution, so there's no secrecy and big elephant in the room about this is we've talked about it in terms of one of us is going. We have a little group of four here? That our core four, and we often talk about it. One of us is going first. And so I do know, as part of my anxiety? I do know that I'm always aware of that every single day. And I kind of, I kind of accommodate that feeling.

Brenda Rachel  1:20:04  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:20:04  
And that's why we text each other every morning. Make sure we're good, but we can see each other's place so we know. And I got my husband to do also Find My Phone. Because, you know, it's just, it's just, we know catastrophe can hit and, you know. And so, you know, I'm not creating that, and I'm not necessarily expecting it, but it's, it's a huge thing I personally have to live with and I think a lot of people have to live with it. So anyway, find little solutions to help you. You know, if it's technology or communicating with a loved one about your concerns, your fears. Talk to a trusted if you have a trusted soul partner that you know if it's if it gets overwhelming, share it. Share it. Because that'll eat away you when you try and solve a problem on your own don't you think?

Brenda Rachel  1:21:00  
Yeah, but yes, I do. But I also want to say that until we ourselves can acknowledge from within what the real issue is? 

Vonne Solis  1:21:11  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:21:12  
We, it's not possible to share it with another individual. So we have to, we have to identify, or I should say I. I have to identify at my core what the real issue is. Not what a kind of a cover up issue. I have to get to the real issue and be totally honest with myself. And at that juncture, then if I choose to share it with you, and you know, once I've acknowledged like what's really going on? 

Vonne Solis  1:21:44  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:21:45  
Because to just say, Well, I have this issue, and then kind of skirt around it?

Vonne Solis  1:21:49  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:21:50  
Because this is going on, or that happened, or I didn't hear from whatever, whatever, but all the outlying story, rather than what really is inside.

Vonne Solis  1:21:59  
So that's really interesting, because so by the time it does come to me, you've already gone through that process.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:05  
Yeah, yeah yeah. Well right now, right now, I don't not have too much surface stuff, because I already know there's, I don't get into too many stories.

Vonne Solis  1:22:15  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:15  
I identify pretty quickly what's...

Vonne Solis  1:22:18  
Oh, good. So you have...

Brenda Rachel  1:22:20  
the root of what's going on.

Vonne Solis  1:22:21  
So you just said something really key also, stories. So we do, we do create our stories in anxiety and in a lot of other states.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:33  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:22:34  
And that story kicks in the minute we're triggered.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:37  
Correct.

Vonne Solis  1:22:38  
And it will be a repeat and a repeat and a repeat and a repeat until we start to no longer want the story.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:46  
Right. 

Vonne Solis  1:22:47  
That means we don't want the issue. We don't want to feel anxious. We don't want to be heightened survival mode. In a heightened survival mode. That is not a great way to live.

Brenda Rachel  1:22:58  
Right.

Vonne Solis  1:22:58  
And it disrupts every every aspect of our health, our sleep, our functioning, everything. And even if we've got it controlled that is still not dealt with.

Brenda Rachel  1:23:15  
Correct, correct.

Vonne Solis  1:23:21  
I guess I have some work to do.

Brenda Rachel  1:23:23  
Me too.

Vonne Solis  1:23:24  
I guess I have some work to do.

Brenda Rachel  1:23:26  
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:23:26  
And this is where communing with your spiritual, you know, side, I think it's good, and I think we can learn from other humans, obviously. And there are great, wonderful leaders out there, and people out there whose work will, you know, you'll resonate with in various capacities and stuff. There could be medical professionals, and their information is just very, very, very excellent. And you know, so to learn about trauma, I need to learn from psychiatrists and so on. I'm not working with one, but you know, certainly information and books and things and these webinars I sometimes take and Oh, that's interesting. Oh, that's interesting. But by and large, our healing? Our wholeness, our wellness, our holistic wellness, it's it's it's on us.

Brenda Rachel  1:23:27  
Well it's an inside job. Okay?

Vonne Solis  1:24:25  
I like that. Inside job.

Brenda Rachel  1:24:26  
It's not an outside job. You know, nobody can fix us. So we can go to any kind of...

Vonne Solis  1:24:32  
Yeah yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:24:33  
consultation service we choose to.

Vonne Solis  1:24:36  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:24:37  
And, which is absolutely great. And I think very, very necessary in in different situations.

Vonne Solis  1:24:44  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:24:45  
To not try and figure things out by ourselves. But in the end, we are the only ones who can identify what the issue is and deal with the issue. Because...

Vonne Solis  1:24:58  
Yeah,.

Brenda Rachel  1:24:58  
when we're dealing with it, even when we get direction from from a professional?

Vonne Solis  1:25:05  
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel  1:25:06  
We still are the ones that have to deal with it.

Vonne Solis  1:25:10  
Exactly.

Brenda Rachel  1:25:10  
Right?

Vonne Solis  1:25:12  
Nobody can give you a magic pill, right, to make it go away

Brenda Rachel  1:25:13
Right.

Vonne Solis  1:25:18
No vice is going to deal with it. It might cloud you for a while to you know, like have something, a trip, shopping, gambling, drinking, drugs. Any of it, sex. Any of it. It could make it could kind of dull it, make it go away, just temporarily. But that issue within you. The largest one that is the cause of a whole bunch of other stuff that you deal with that it really comes to, I don't want to say disposition, but I will say the tranquility. The level of tranquility of our inner state, is what will give us a solution for everything. Everything. I'm working on it. You're

Brenda Rachel   1:26:08
I'm working on it.

Vonne Solis  1:26:10
Right? You're working on it. We're all working on it. But it's getting to that inner state of tranquility by any means that you can that are safe, positive, healthy for you. For me, it was all through consciousness expansion. Angels. Everything Divine. It would have been so tempting for me folks to grab the Valium, okay, when Janaya died. And I actually was offered it and refused it, okay, by a medical professional. Just not pushing it on me. Just, do you want some? No. Because I didn't think I would, you know, you know, maybe not be tempted to down the whole bottle. And that is why I have always said the angels saved me.

Brenda Rachel  1:26:58
Yeah, yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:27:00 
And whether, like you, or anyone believes they're real or they're not real because you haven't experienced it, or they haven't experienced it, that's not it's not for me to consider. I experienced it. I know what I've gone through. I wouldn't want to go back to not one previous day of my life.

Brenda Rachel  1:27:17
No.

Vonne Solis  1:27:18 
Certainly not in this, in this journey of bereavement. But I can see looking back over 19 plus years, the healing course I took, and I right away was wired to find a solution to this suffering. I was not going to get stuck. And hence, you know, other little things that are annoyances, I've no longer I'm no longer allowing them to be annoyances for me, because I don't want it in my life. I don't want it. So I'm aware that stuff could still hit me, but I am making the conscious decision as of late to just go, You know what? You're going to stay calm, and you're going to think logically and you're going to find and even if you need to request help from the Divine, you will find the exact right solution to that challenge. Whatever that challenge may be. 

Vonne Solis  1:28:17
But as an aside, mostly I don't have problems anymore challenges, because I just ask the Divine to make sure everything goes smoothly. Travel and all that kind of stuff that I don't get caught in it. But I tell you, if I do run into anything that is huge for me. I mean, huge. I'm going to not allow myself to go down that rabbit hole of all of that, you know, massive fear and not being able to solve it. And cowering, you know, to the point, you ever, you ever been so afraid you're just shaking, okay? Like that kind of anxiety and shaky. I don't want to be like that. So, you know, well, here's looking at you kid. Let's hope it doesn't happen and I just keep on this path. But like I said, I think it's kind of almost in discipline to keep ourselves wanting to be that way.

Brenda Rachel  1:29:13
I agree. I agree.

Vonne Solis  1:29:15 
Nice and tranquil.

Brenda Rachel  1:29:16 
Yeah.

Vonne Solis  1:29:17  
Okay, well, that's the way today went. And I hope it is helpful for you in some way and in connection. Because even as we say these words, and then I edit this, and I listen back to what we've said, and you listen to it, and I get other little nuggets, and can feel the healing taking place all the time.

Brenda Rachel  1:29:38 
Yeah.

Vonne Solis   1:29:39 
Right?

Brenda Rachel  1:29:40 
Yeah. I'm just grateful for the good moments right now. So.

Vonne Solis  1:29:41 
Yeah.

Brenda Rachel   1:29:42
Very, very grateful, and know that there are a lot, lot more to come. So.

Vonne Solis  1:29:47 
Absolutely. So we'll leave you on that note. On that very high positive note. Thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. Together, we are the Soul Sisters. See you next time.

Brenda Rachel  1:30:01 
Bye.

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